Showing posts with label Kazakhstan. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Kazakhstan. Show all posts

Thursday, November 8, 2007

Very Interesting Couple of Months!

I started researching the possibility of adopting from China back in July 2007. I soon figured out that the wait for a non-special needs (NSN) infant from China would be well over 3 years. In fact, I'm expecting the wait will probably be about 5+ years for people filing now. Since my husband is Chinese-American, he really wanted to adopt from China and did not want to consider another country. I, however, did not want to wait 5 years for my first child! Initially I had thought that we could be expedited for Chinese adoption due to my husband's ethnicity, but since his father was born in Vietnam (even though he is ethnically Chinese), the CCAI will not consider us for an expedited adoption.

With some more research I thought that a concurrent adoption might suit our needs, allowing us to eventually adopt from China, but also to adopt another baby in a shorter time span. Eventually, I was drawn to Kazakhstan. The process of adopting from Kazakhstan is a bit more difficult than adopting from some other countries because perspective adoptive parents (PAPs) have to spend weeks and months in Kazakhstan to adopt a child, but the difficulty of the process makes the demand for children from Kazakhstan less, therefore greatly decreasing the wait times. Also, the majority of the babies available for adoption in Kazakhstan are Asian or Eurasian, which appealed to my husband since he wants our babies to look like us.

Next came the decision on which agencies to use for our concurrent adoptions. It was very easy for me to decide to use China Adoption with Love (CAWLI) based in Brookline, Massachusetts for our China adoption. The reviews for CAWLI on the Yahoo Chat Groups were all positive. My husband and I scheduled an appointment to meet with the director in Boston and we thought she (Lillian) and her staff were great (and patient). CAWLI is a lot cheaper than many agencies and does a lot more of the footwork for its clients, including notarizing and apostilling documents and arranging travel to China without marking up the travel costs. CAWLI also sends a doctor from the U.S. with each of its groups of PAPs that travel to China. Finally, CAWLI was fine with us doing a concurrent adoption as long as there was at least a year between our adoptions. I found this all very reassuring and so far am very happy with CAWLI and email frequently with their documentation representative, Meg, about which documents they require and the best way to obtain them.

I was a little bit more confused by which agency to use for adoption from Kazakhstan. Whereas the China adoption process seems older and more established, one gets the feeling that adopting from Kazakhstan can pose many surprises and that the way those surprises are handled by the authorities while PAPs are in Kazakhstan can be very unpredictable. The top two agencies I learned about were World Partners Adoption (WPA), based in Georgia, and Little Miracles (LMI), based in Texas. I also looked in to Journey Home Adoption (JHA) that was started by some ex-WPA clients a few years ago.

WPA impressed me right away when a day after I emailed them for information Lisa Kaforey, an adoption coordinator based in upstate New York called me to ask me if I had any questions. Lisa continued to respond promptly to emails. WPA even agreed to send me their contract ahead of time so that I could go through it and make sure that there was nothing I felt uncomfortable with before actually sending in the application and the $300 application fee. Little Miracles never contacted me after they emailed me their info packet. Additionally, a few days later when I sent them a list of 25 questions LMI never responded to my email. It's been months now, and they never wrote back to me. Lisa from WPA responded within 1 day. So LMI was off my list.

My reservation about WPA was the fact that I saw some mixed reviews about them on the Yahoo Chat Groups. I know that no one agency can please all people and that international adoption is risky, so there will always be some people that are not happy with the experience. Still, I had a nagging doubt about WPA. When Lisa sent me a list of about 100 references from WPA, I emailed every single person on the list. Most everyone got back to me. Most were 100% happy. Some were pretty happy and one person responded that she was surprised that she was still on WPA's list since she had ended up using JHA for her second adoption and WPA had removed her from their Internet group list. It seems if WPA is unhappy with a client (or vice versa) they are quickly removed from the WPA group. I also talked to some WPA clients who had some problems while in Kazakhstan that they thought were not handled in the most customer-friendly manner.

So, with nagging doubts I contacted JHA. JHA was started by some women who used WPA in the past and were not completely satisfied with their experience. JHA uses the same team of professionals in Kazakhstan that WPA uses. It is this team of seasoned Kazakh professionals that differentiates WPA (and JHA) from other agencies that perform adoptions in Kazakhstan and is the reason that the Kazakhstan embassy Website in New York City lists WPA as the agency to use for Kazak adoptions.

Upon contacting JHA I liked Coleen Belli immediately and liked the fact JHA wants to create a warmer, more personalized experience for their clients than they experienced while they were with WPA. A few things made me feel uncomfortable with JHA, however. The first thing was that although JHA has only had a few clients, Coleen did not put me in touch with all of them to get references. I felt like she was being vague about the number of clients and then I think she put me in touch with about 4 or so of them when there supposedly is a total of about 14 clients. Also, I did not like being put in touch with JHA's "ambassadors" who are people who have adopted with WPA not JHA, but essentially can talk to you about their Kaz experience since JHA and WPA use the same Kaz-based team, the sisters. Much of JHAs marketing materials were based on references from the ambassadors. I know that JHA is a new agency, but I would rather see a reference from a true client of JHA and not a reference from someone who used WPA in the past but spoke only of their experience in Kazakhstan. Finally, I read JHA's contract and it was exactly the same as WPA's but with a few more restrictive clauses.

A few days after reading the JHA contract I decided to go with WPA. So far I am very happy and have had a very good experience with Lisa Kaforey and with the owner, Jim Harding, whom I contacted about the terms of the contract. My thoughts are that I would rather go with an agency with a long history of doing Kazakhstan adoptions, than with a new agency that is just starting out, even though they use the same team in Kazakhstan. For my first adoption I want to go with a seasoned team that has experienced all of the pitfalls and loopholes while dealing with adoptions in Kazakhstan. Hopefully my "gut feeling" about WPA has served me well.

So now I am busy gathering paperwork for our home study agency, Jewish Child Care Agency (JCCA), based in New York City where we live, and for CAWLI and WPA. It certainly is a bit confusing and would probably be very difficult for someone who is not very good at juggling multiple balls, but so far, I have found the challenge very invigorating and interesting. I will write more in future posts about the different requirements and how to avoid some pitfalls during the "paperchase."

Wednesday, September 5, 2007

Helpful Information for Adopting from Kazakhstan

If you are just beginning to learn about adopting a child from Kazakhstan there are a few facts you might want to consider:


  • Kazakhstan has both boys and girls, from infant (at least six months old) to young adult available for adoption. There are more boys than girls available, but at this time many agencies still allow perspective adoptive parents (PAPs) to specify whether they would like a boy or a girl, an infant or an older child;


  • Kazakhstan is located between Russia, China (and several other countries such as Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgystan) and therefore has children available of many ethnicities including Caucasian, Asian and Eurasian. Some adoption agencies working in Kazakhstan allow PAPs to specify the ethnicity of their child, though many do not allow PAPs to specify Caucasian children.

  • As of today's posting date, the wait for adopting a healthy infant from Kazakhstan (from hiring an agency to returning home) ranges from one year to 18 months;


  • If you are interested in adopting an older or special needs child, wait times could be less;


  • In order to adopt from Kazakhstan you will have to travel to the country. The times spent in-country are extensive compared to many international adoption programs. PAPs have the option of making one 6-8 week trip to Kazakhstan, or two trips consisting of one leg lasting approximately three weeks and a second leg, 15 days later, lasting approximately one or two weeks.

  • There are some regions of Kazakhstan that no longer allow international adoption of their children. As with all international adoption the rules now set in place to regulate adoption from Kazakhstan could change at any time.


Do You Qualify to Adopt from Kazakhstan?


If after reading the above, you are still interested in adopting from Kazakhstan then you will need to see if you qualify. Please note that individual adoption agencies may have stricter requirements for PAPs seeking to adopt from Kazakhstan than are listed below. Requirements to adopt in Kazakhstan include, but are not limited to:

  • Kazakhstan allows both single and married people to adopt. There are no age requirements other than that an unmarried prospective adoptive parent must be at least 16 years older than the child s/he intends to adopt. In practice, however, some unmarried prospective adoptive parents have found it difficult to adopt, as have prospective parents over age 60;


  • Prospective adoptive parents who have any type of arrest record, regardless of how minor or how long ago an offense occurred, should consult with an adoption professional before deciding to adopt from Kazakhstan. In several cases adoptive parents have faced lengthy and costly delays in finalizing their adoptions in Kazakhstan courts because of decades-old arrest records. An approved home study citing the arrest does not guarantee a favorable court decision;


  • No more than two divorces per adoptive parent;


  • Both parents must be U.S. citizens;


  • Kazakhstan requires annual post placement reports until the child reaches 18 years of age.


Research, Research, Research!


Researching international adoption is crucial for a variety of reasons. It helps you:

  • Decide if you are ready to adopt internationally


  • Find the best country/program to meet your adoptive needs


  • Find out about the ins and outs of adopting


  • Find an ethical, law-abiding adoption agency

The following links should help you become better-educated on what you need to know to adopt from Kazakhstan.


+ Government Websites

It's always a good idea to see what the Kazakh and U.S. governments have to say about adoption in Kazakhstan:




+ Chat Groups


You should DEFINITELY join chat groups on adopting from Kazakhstan. You can learn tons of information by reading about other people's experiences and by asking questions.

There are several great chat groups on Yahoo Groups. Each group has a screening process that you must go through in order to join. It is generally not difficult to complete the process.


Once you have become a member, be aware that some chat groups allow adoption agency representatives to join and some do not, but even when the agencies are not allowed, they may sneak through the screening process. Use your common sense and know that a glowing review written about a particular agency may be coming from an agency representative who is using a pseudonym.

Also, it is a very good idea to read through the questions that have already been posted to the chat group in order to see what you can learn before you post any new questions. Chances are the questions you want answers to have already been asked many times over.


The main groups on adoption in Kazakhstan are:


  • Kazakhstan Adoptions - Kazakhstan Adoptions is community of people that are interested in adopting from Kazakhstan or have already adopted from Kazakhstan.


  • Kazakhstan Adoption - (This is a different group than the one listed above). This list is an arena for all interested in the Kazakhstan adoption procedure, families who are currently adopting and those who have adopted from Central Asia. This list is rather informal and encourages discussion of all topics in reference to Russia, Central Asia and Eastern Europe and adoption from these countries.

There are other adoption-related groups for Kazakhstan, but they deal with particular areas within Kazakhstan from which PAPs are adopting, such as Ust-Kamenogorsk or Astana. These generally have much less traffic than the two groups listed above.


Other helpful groups are:

  • Adoption Agency Research - International - Adoption Agency Research Group was formed to help prospective adoptive parents (PAPs) in their research and selection of an international adoption agency. Adoption agency representatives are not allowed to join this group.


  • International Adoption Agency Feedback - This group was created to inform people researching international adoption agencies, attorneys and home study agencies. This group is open to ANYONE wanting this information including agencies, attorneys and home study agencies.

There may be other useful chat groups not listed here. You can do a search on Yahoo Groups or a general Internet search on Google to find more. In particular, some cities and states have groups so that people from the same area can chat and meet up.



+ Adoption in Kazakhstan - The Down and Dirty

After reading through the chat groups for a while, you may discover that international adoption can be risky and fraught with unscrupulous agencies, unforeseen health issues of adopted children and changes in government-adoption policies that can leave PAPs high and dry. Certain people have had very bad experiences in the adoption process and want to share their stories so that others don't have to go through the same ordeals that they did. Other people may not have had bad experiences themselves, but they have created sites that attempt give their readers the insider's edge. I call these types of sites the "down and dirty" sites and they can be very helpful in educating you and enlightening you to the perspective pitfalls associated with international adoption.


It's important to remember that when it comes to other people's opinions posted on the Internet, you might be reading the absolute truth, or the poster's version of the truth, or a downright lie. It's difficult to know for sure, so use your best judgement!


  • Dawn and Joe's Story - A blog by a couple who had a bad experience with International Adoption Partners (IAP) of Pennsylvania. Their story, along with other couples who used IAP will be aired on ABC News at 5pm on September 10th (and may continue at the same time on September 11th). This may just be a local airing in the NY/NJ area. I am not sure.


+ Blogs by Families Who Have Adopted from Kazakhstan

Many families who adopt from Kazakhstan keep an adoption blog of their experience. Reading through these blogs is an invaluable way to learn about adopting from Kazakhstan. Some of the blogs listed below are about couples who are waiting to adopt, some about those who already have, and still some about those who have already adopted and are waiting to adopt child #2!
You can find many more adoption blogs by going to a Yahoo Group on Kazakhstan adoption and doing a search for "blog".